| He has a habit of standing me up |
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| Written by ivorylovetower | |
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Updated 29.05.2007
Sam I'm 37 and my problem is this. Men can be forgetful at times but if they forget once and you give them a toasting they rarely do it again. For example it's only been 4 months and in that time, he was late for our first date. He invited me to a concert and never got back to me about it. I know I should have learned then. You did warn me. Yes, I did warn you (see previous article ), but sometimes the only way to find out is to try him out and it looks like you have done that, unfortunately. And I am now guessing that I was right with my comments? Since then, we have grown closer and developed a sexual relationship but it is not solely based on sex as he is happy enough to cuddle in bed at night and be content. And we do have some successful dinner dates that he actually attends. It seems that you have taught him that he needs to show a little respect to keep you, he's actually corrected his behaviour and you have given him sex to reward him for that. Though by what you have said in the past, sex was probably all he was after in the first place. Three days ago I raised the issue of his tardiness and lack of respect at letting me know he wasn't going to turn up to my house like he would say he was going to for dinner or something. As it had started to happen repeatedly. Not every time. But sometimes. Oh, so he's back to his old ways? As if he has got complacent about convincing you that he wants to be with you.
He acknowledged that it was a polite thing to let someone know if they were going to be late etc, etc, and I thought we had reached a mutual understanding and that in future he would be more courteous to me. Objects like gold necklaces are nothing, they are a cheap way of winning a woman over, what you want is respect and love they are more precious than a bit of metal to hang round your neck. Well Sam, I've had that necklace on for 3 days and it is already now back in his hands. Last night, my daughter (11) and I were supposed to have dinner with him and his daughter (19). His daughter didn't turn up or let him know what was happening (like daughter like father) and he had the hide to say he was annoyed with her for doing that. OK, I would be annoyed about someone not turning up, though with his track record I agree that he didn't have much room to talk. The point is, he invited my daughter and I, booked the table, made the arrangements, confirmed them with me at 6.30 that evening and when my daughter and I arrived at the pre-arranged time of 7.30 he is in the bar and when I ask him where our table in the restaurant was, he said, "I've canned it."
What? Why? That is just stupid, ignorant, irrational and selfish. And demonstrates a lack of respect for you and your daughter and a lack of value with your relationship. First of all he shouldn't have canned the table, if he'd actually booked it in the first place, secondly if he wanted to cancel the table he should of gave you a good reason and discussed it with you first. A relationship is about two people not about him doing what he pleases. You definitely did the right thing, I only hope you aren't going to make the same mistake as many other women and let him win you back, because he'll only mess you about again and again. He wants sex and when he wants sex he will persuade you that he wants you. This guy doesn't value you enough for you to even consider having a relationship with him.
Yes, but this is a very big thing and you say every aspect of the relationship is fine, but the only other positive things you can say about him is that he had cuddles with you and gave you a gold necklace of his. Once men become adults it's very difficult to change them. Time to find another man!
Reply from Ivorylovetower 29.05.07
While
I understand that in the end it is probably time for me to find another
man, right now, I'm so up and down about what has gone on with this one
that I can't get my head on straight. One minute I'm cursing and the
next crying.
I have a hell of a lot of pride Sam and sometimes, I believe that it is to my own detriment to have TOO much pride. You see, in past relationships, my pride prevented me from working through problems with partners, and I would just walk off to prove a point that I was right and they were wrong.
That
is something you need to address and put right then, so you don't take
that problem into any other relationships. I know it's not easy when
you have grown up not working through problems in relationships, but
the fact is relationships are all about two people and negotiating well
with each other and being diplomatic in some circumstances.
And
for that, I spend most of my life single. In fact, I had been single
for 5 1/2 years before this guy came along. Not one date, one kiss, one
anything because I refused them all.
Well
maybe you have gone without a relationship for so long, you are being
too keen to accept a guy that is not suitable for you. Yes, you need
to be to find a guy and yes you need to let your high standards slip a
bit, but don't go too far and accept a guy that is completely
unsuitable for you.
I'd been friends with this guy for 2 years before he finally got hold
of me. Sure, he wanted to get in my pants, but I guess I was a
challenge to him. He was never so crude as to say directly that he
wanted to get into my pants and usually we would just talk and laugh
the night away together as friends instead.
I have an extreme jealousy streak. Sometimes I like to blame it on being a Scorpio (lol) but I know it is an insecurity I have due to being cheated on by so many men in the past.
You
do need to be cautious of men, because a lot of men can cheat,
particularly the men that women find most attractive, because they have
more women chasing them. But you also should never smother a man and
get paranoid about whether he is or isn't seeing someone else. The
fact is if he does see someone else then it means you are not providing
him enough, whether that be sex wise or relationship wise, and in that
case you would be better off finding someone else. But you should only
accuse him of seeing someone if there is a genuine, good reason with
good evidence to suspect he is seeing someone. Otherwise your
insecurity will consume the relationship and make it unworkable for him.
Because I'm such a suspicious person, I checked his phone messages,
calls he made etc, just to console myself and either he's one step
ahead of me and deletes them in case I see them, or he's been
completely behaving himself because all his calls and messages have
been to me.
I
wouldn't think men would think of deleting them, unless he was planning
on you gaining access to his phone, which is unlikely. So really
without the evidence I wouldn't suspect him of anything. Mobile phones
are a good way to covertly find out if your guy is cheating on you and
you have taken the initiative and now your mind should be at rest about
this issue.
I also know that he has been with me or at work in the entire last few months. I can account for it.
While it is easy to say he must have been after me only for sex, and I have the same thoughts sometimes, I have to say that it really wasn't all like that. Many times he'd come for dinner, we'd watch a movie, we'd go to bed and he'd be too tired after work to have sex. He used to tell me how nice it was just to hold me and have someone to care about like this again.
It
sounds to me like he was desperate for someone to have sex with him but
also desperate to feel loved and wanted by a woman. In that
desperation he chose someone who was not really suited to him from a
relationship point of view. As a result he wasn't taking plenty of sex
and loving off you but he failed to give plenty back and failed to make
you feel wanted and loved by him.
He'd
sometimes say to me "I might keep you". The night he gave me the
necklace, he told me that he was starting to fall in love with me.
I
have emphasized in my articles before that it is possible for a woman
to convince a man after some time that he does love her, even if he
didn't have any intention of loving her at first. Both the comments
that you say indicate that he never had any intention of loving you at
first but because he has spent so much time with you he is starting to
feel as though he loves you.
I was the one who told him to hold back. If you'd have only told me about this one occasion where he lacked manners and didn't really consider you, I wouldn't have been telling you to finish with him. What I would have said is he's made a mistake and everyone makes mistakes, negotiate your way through the mistake like any normal couple would do. But instead you have gave me the whole picture of what the relationship has been like, and to me it seems as though your relationship has been very one sided in which he has taken far more than he has given back and demonstrated a lack of committment towards you, for example making comments like "I might keep you", and he was starting to fall in love with you (after how long knowing you?). But pride is going to stop me from saying what I want to him. I wish I hadn't been so determined so soon to throw it away without trying harder to get him to understand and work on what I wanted and what I needed.
You need to learn a few things from this relationship. Firstly you need to learn that relationships are about two people, those two people need to be fairly synchronised in their progress throughout the relationship. Secondly both people need to be diplomatic and discuss things with each other, otherwise frustrations are just going to build up and if the other person doesn't know about those frustrations they can't do anything about them. You need to be willing to be flexible every now and then and your partner should also be flexible every now and then. Thirdly you need to ensure that both of you want to be in the relationship with each other, not just because your desperate for sex or desperate to be loved by someone. I've dumped him for this one known fault of his whereas I have more than 100 faults but he likes me anyway. Even though I already showed him a few of my own. Where he's placid about everything, I'm the type of person to come out with both barrels blazing. Yes, it's true you need to understand that guys have some faults and tell him that you are not happy with them in the hope that he might correct his ways. Yes you shouldn't be so impulsive and tempremental, but again I must emphasize the fact that in my opinion he wasn't right for you. Of course I can't always be right and I can only go on what you write about him and yourself, but I have based my opinion on those facts you have given me. Sure it can come back to it just being about sex for him but I just don't know what to think. My gut instinct tells me lots of things lots of times and it is often right, but my gut instinct about this says it wasn't just the sex. To be honest now you have told me a bit more about him, like "He used to tell me how nice it was just to hold me and have someone to care about like this again", this demonstrates a bit more that he actually wanted someone to love him as well. So he was using you for sex and love, but this all seemed one sided, it was all about him, him and him and he hasn't showed you anything to demonstrate that he wanted to give you much back, for that reason it is my gut instinct that he is not for you. Anyway, what I'm asking you is, should I swallow some of my pride since it keeps me lonely and do what it is I want to do and say in it in an email to him for instance, or do I stand my digs and wait for him to contact me. If he really cared about me, wouldn't he contact me?
If he really cared about you, yes he would contact you. What I would recommend is you concentrate on finding someone else. You really need to get over this guy otherwise you are just going to continue putting yourself through the same thing over and over again. Within a year of getting back with him you will be back to stalemate. It's much better for you to concentrate on finding your ideal man and using that year more constructively. Yes, it's going to hurt splitting with him but relationships often hurt, you get over it with time. I don't think either of you should make any break, but if you really do want to give it a go, you need to be the one contacting him, because you are the one that has finished him.
It does sound petty based on that one incident, but based on the whole picture it was the right thing to do.
Well I wouldn't go that far. In the end it's your decision, I can only give my honest opinion.
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