erosok on 26.08.2005
Some of this was very helpful as I am trying to work out if
a bloke fancies me and ho to follow up on it if he does. Let me explain: we've
known each other for years, but I've been in two, committed, relationships
during that time - the second of which broke up two months ago. Before that
happened though this bloke and I were getting on better than we ever had (jokes,
smiles) and while we didn't talk about what was going on with my relationship he
was very sympathetic. Other than that he is known as a bit of a flirt, but it
seems very specific with me - in the sense that other people have started to
look at me a bit strange when we are together in front of them (possibly because
I tend to get rather more of his attention than they do and sometimes when we
look at each other as a result of what someone else has said, those eye-contact
smiles are a bit 'private' feeling, and we've started standing inside each
other's personal space a bit, also we occassionally walk part way home from work
together). Anyway, we went to the cinema together to see a German film and I
accidentally (honestly, accidentally) rested my arm against his (thought it was
the chair back!), being embarrassed - in case he thought I was pushing things -
I moved my arm forwards, and then so did he! Needless to say, I didn't move
again and though both of us shifted to get comfortable our upper arms stayed in
contact until the end of the film. We had coffee and a chat afterwards and I
said that I'd had a lovely time and really enjoyed his company, to which he said
he had too and we must do it again sometime, to which I said that that would be
nice. Since then though things seem to have dropped off - I've mentioned a film
I'd like to see (just us) and an art gallery/exhibition that I'm going to with
friends (a group and an interest of his) but he's avoided both (in the sense of
not clearly saying yes or no but talking about other things). Other than that
things are pretty much the same as before (smiles, jokes, interrupting what
either of us is doing to have coffee when the other is free) with two
differences. Firstly, he has popped down to my office (usually we talk in the
staffroom or in his office as I pass it on the way to mine) to see if I'm going
for coffee once and secondly, while he started out talking to my face he had
recently (pre-cinema) started occassionally looking at my tits (which are quite
nice, if I do say so myself! so I wasn't upset by that), now though (and this is
making me a bit puzzled/uncomfortable) he's started looking at my midriff/hips
sometimes.
Essentially, I'm confused! I think he fancies me. I fancy him, but don't want to
ruin the friendship (which is very good, we can talk about serious family/health
stuff - the flirty stuff is a nice added layer on top) by doing something too
overt - or plain stupid if he's changed his mind. I just can't get past the fact
that he smiles at me as if the sun had come up when he sees me. Help! And
thanks.Sam's
Response
You say "I moved my arm forwards, and then so did he". You
can class that as 'mirroring' and that is a sign that he either fancies you or
you are a very close friend. Judging by the length of time you have known each
other, it could be either. Close friends do mirror each other and touch each
other so it is not conclusive evidence that he fancies you but add a few other
signals and it might become conclusive.
You mentioned a film and an art gallery, both of which you know he likes. Have
you just mentioned it or have you actually asked him to come? Women often seem
to have this problem that they will hint that they want to go somewhere but
won't actually ask the question. For example, a woman would say "I'm going to
the art gallery with my friends this Sunday" instead of "I'm going to the art
gallery with my friends this sunday, do you fancy coming?" Men are not the
slightest bit psychic, if you want to ask him a question, ask him, don't leave
him to guess whether you are asking him to come or not.
The majority of men are not as socially intelligent as women. If you just make a
statement and he thinks of saying "I would not mind going myself" (he will
probably think he is being pushy, clingy or sounding desperate saying this),
then you say "oh no it is just for my friends", then he will find it difficult
to cope with that social situation. So usually he will avoid saying it in the
first place.
You say "started occassionally looking at my tits, he's started looking at my
midriff/hips sometimes". As friends you can expect him to give you a lot of eye
contact and focus on your face a lot and maybe drift down your body very
occasionally. But if you have noticed him looking at your tits and your hips on
more than a few occasions, I think you can safely say that he is thinking of
what it would be like to get his hands on them. In the first paragraph I was
saying that mirroring alone is not conclusive, it must be supported by other
signals, I think the signals he is giving here supports the mirroring signals
that he fancies you.
To me you are showing classic signs of knowing each other for a long time. You
value each other as close friends, but because of that close friend thing
neither of you want to risk losing the friendship by making the final move and
tell the other you are interested in more than that.
It is difficult to say how to cautiously try and push your relationship further
because you have to do it correctly for it to work.
Realistically you want a situation where you are both alone together, no
distractions from other people and where you are more able to concentrate and
relax in each others company. Invite him back to your place for dinner or to
watch a DVD. Maybe he is good at fixing computers or electrics or plumbing in
which case you can invite him back to your place to help out. Bear in mind he
might expect sex if you do this.
A cinema or theatre is a very good place to get started. There's nobody watching
and you can ACCIDENTALLY touch. You say you pulled away from him. You found out
he wasn't bothered by you touching him. So why bother pulling away from him
anymore. If he moves just say sorry was that your arm or just pretend you did
not notice.
Any chance you get to move near to him without it looking forced, take it. For
example you are walking through a crowd, keep pressing against him or sticking
close to him, if you get the chance grab hold of his hand because you want to
make sure you don't lose each other in the crowd.
Ultimately it requires one of you to take a risk and risk your friendship. Lets
face it while you are waiting around he could end up finding someone else, would
that be more devastating? If you make the move and he doesn't fancy you, there
are plenty more people you can have as close friends.
Please bear in mind that I hope my take on your situation is correct but I am
neither there to experience it, nor am I right all time. It is ultimately up to
you to evaluate the situation. Good Luck!
Reply by erosok on 31.08.2005
Thanks, I know that you aren't where I am and may not be right but every
bit of insight helps. Especially with the body language -I had a friend who
suggested he was 'checking out your child-bearing/nurturing capabilities' and I
nearly puked: even if you're not right I feel more comfortable with things.
I think on reflection that I had been a bit too subtle with the invites (so as
not to seem pushy myself!), so will bear in mind the male mind and be a bit more
obvious next time! You're right about taking a risk and if I don't I don't think
he will (he's older than I am, and made a few comments about his age a few weeks
ago which seemed designed to see if it bothers me - it doesn't, we get on too
well for that - and he's not mentioned it since), so basically this is to say
thank you for the suggestions about accidental touching, but if they don't work
I'm not going to blame you :-) Interestingly enough he's just nearly (but not
quite) touched my arm/back himself while ushering me through a door and now I've
paid attention to the 'mirroring' thing it's something we both do unconsciously
quite a lot (leg crossing towards each other, hands touching our cheeks, leaning
one elbow on our kness) I think we're going to get there! It's unfortunate that
he's totally DIY inpractical and doesn't even garden so the more obvious
dinner/DVD will have to do. All I need now is an appropriate time and to realise
that if I get knocked back its not the end of the world as at least I tried and
it may be better to regret doing something than regret doing nothing in this
case. Thanks again!
Sam's Reply
Thanks for your comments.
Sorry to make you nearly puke again but I reckon your friend is right. His
conscious brain will be thinking I can't wait to get my hands on her body. His
unconscious brain will be assessing your child rearing capabilities.
So whilst he will only be consciously thinking I can't wait to get my hands on
her, his unconscious brain will be assessing your potential fertility.
Just like your conscious brain is probably assessing his personality whereas
your unconscious brain is probably assessing his ability to produce babies and
protect you (even if you are not interested in babies at the moment).
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